So a few things I get. You draft for the long term, not the short term; three guys who stick beat six guys who don’t; and Brad Holmes is way better at talent evaluation than I am. There were edges we could have gotten, but Brad didn’t like the options. Respect that.
But what are the the realistic (cost, fit, and availability) options on the edge for next year? Can’t be “we’re good.”
So there are two things that I keep in mind about this… First, Detroit is a high-quality roster needing a handful of pieces rather than wholesale turnover of the roster. Second, this draft was regarded as being fairly weak on talent outside the top 80 or 100 pics. Each one of the guys he’s taken yesterday and today were for a specific purpose on the team in the coming years
Justin, I saw the press conference so I know this wasn't necessarily addressed.
Dane Brugler said tonight that "a lot of teams had Day 3 grades on him."
I'm not saying he would have been there at 102 - size, speed, hands, and run blocking all say otherwise. I actually had a feeling he was gonna be the pick in the third.
But I'm really curious why they believed they had to get to 70. Why not just trade 1 2026 third to move up to like pick 90? Or move some of tomorrow's capital? Who were we trying to get in front of?
Im relaxed. It's not the trade that bothers me as much as the "reach" it seems to be. The same thing with Martin and Manu... feels like patience would have paid off, and didn't need to deal all the capital. I could be wrong. But Holmes could have waited for his pick in the 4th to get Martin, AND still kept all the capital he gave up. Feels the same for TeSlaa... did we really need to deal 2 extra picks to get someone whonhad a decent change of being there at 102?
Man... Holmes really does love giving valuable draft capital for unknown projects. Hasn't really worked out yet but only takes one I guess. Justin, is it reasonable to assume he has good info that TeSlaa would not be there at 102?
Looking at NFL Draft trade charts, this trade is more even than you think. Obviously there will be some variation as we don't know exactly where the Lions will pick next year.
I acknowledge the values are basically a wash. However, I’d rather have Brad make those 2 selections next year or use them/package them to trade up in the 1st or 2nd next year. However, if the pick hits he wins again.
Apparently the Lions thought TeSlaa was electric.
I like the player and though I don't like the trade-ups I've come to expect and grudgingly accept it from Brad
So a few things I get. You draft for the long term, not the short term; three guys who stick beat six guys who don’t; and Brad Holmes is way better at talent evaluation than I am. There were edges we could have gotten, but Brad didn’t like the options. Respect that.
But what are the the realistic (cost, fit, and availability) options on the edge for next year? Can’t be “we’re good.”
So there are two things that I keep in mind about this… First, Detroit is a high-quality roster needing a handful of pieces rather than wholesale turnover of the roster. Second, this draft was regarded as being fairly weak on talent outside the top 80 or 100 pics. Each one of the guys he’s taken yesterday and today were for a specific purpose on the team in the coming years
You guys will forget all about those picks when you see Telsaa play.
This is going to be fun.
Justin, I saw the press conference so I know this wasn't necessarily addressed.
Dane Brugler said tonight that "a lot of teams had Day 3 grades on him."
I'm not saying he would have been there at 102 - size, speed, hands, and run blocking all say otherwise. I actually had a feeling he was gonna be the pick in the third.
But I'm really curious why they believed they had to get to 70. Why not just trade 1 2026 third to move up to like pick 90? Or move some of tomorrow's capital? Who were we trying to get in front of?
The flip side of "a lot of teams had Day 3 grades on him." is some teams had day 2 grades on him and Holmes wanted him so he made sure to get him.
Yeah that's what I'm kinda getting at. I'm wondering if he had a feeling he was gonna go near the top of the third.
Im relaxed. It's not the trade that bothers me as much as the "reach" it seems to be. The same thing with Martin and Manu... feels like patience would have paid off, and didn't need to deal all the capital. I could be wrong. But Holmes could have waited for his pick in the 4th to get Martin, AND still kept all the capital he gave up. Feels the same for TeSlaa... did we really need to deal 2 extra picks to get someone whonhad a decent change of being there at 102?
wow
F them picks Holmes play
Man... Holmes really does love giving valuable draft capital for unknown projects. Hasn't really worked out yet but only takes one I guess. Justin, is it reasonable to assume he has good info that TeSlaa would not be there at 102?
Looking at NFL Draft trade charts, this trade is more even than you think. Obviously there will be some variation as we don't know exactly where the Lions will pick next year.
Relax take a deep breath let Brad cook.
I acknowledge the values are basically a wash. However, I’d rather have Brad make those 2 selections next year or use them/package them to trade up in the 1st or 2nd next year. However, if the pick hits he wins again.
In fairness, third round pick in the 90s, at best moves you up from pick 32 to pick 27.
Ouchie on these trades, I guess gotta trust Brad